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Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2008.04.10 13:21:00 -
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Its so funny CCP ALWAYS leaves some loophole to find. As if it wasnt possible to make it spawn once per xxx time (day/month/year/whatever).
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Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2008.04.19 17:02:00 -
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Originally by: Skyblue
Originally by: Ruddger Park one of your ships inside the plex cloaked until you are ready to run it again, or until DT so you can assure that he will not unfettered access to the respawns.
The plex is still in same location even after DT?
It vanishes during DT
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Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2008.05.06 22:07:00 -
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Originally by: Qual Ok, lets kill the sensationalism of this post. The avarage income for this is 200 to 400M pr. run. 3B require extreme luck. You can end up with no drops, and you need the hacking skill trained. That aside they are pretty nice. Expect to fight RA over them, as they are curretnly farming most of them...
And you can run em each 20-60 minutes compared to twice (once?) per day for old 10/10 plex.
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Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2008.05.10 12:44:00 -
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Edited by: Deva Blackfire on 10/05/2008 12:44:39
Originally by: celada1
I vote for upping the difficulty >:)
To guristas 10/10 difficulty level (not serpentis which is almost soloable). Have a nice day.
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Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2008.05.11 14:09:00 -
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Edited by: Deva Blackfire on 11/05/2008 14:09:39
Originally by: Rawthorm Only problem with upping the dificulty is that you'd essentialy bugger up the drugs trade, which isnt exactly an easy buisness to get into as it is.
Thats why the best way is to remove deadspace loot drops altogether. Plex still is easy enough for people interested in running for booster BPCs to "farm" them but it doesnt hit market with cheap (and abundant) a-type mods.
And face it - if this plex dropped only booster BPCs the amount of people running it 24/7 would drop to 1/10th or less.
EDIT: o yea you prolly know my alt Amizu :) so guess i have clue here :)
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Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2008.06.09 15:29:00 -
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Originally by: Kyle Frost I believe one of the previous posters asked about this already, but got no answer. So i am going to repeat the question: Does anyone know if there are similar complexes in the COSMOS constellations in high sec empire space ?
Hahahhahah... No. Nothing even comes close to digital plexes nowadays, not even dyspro moons ;p
You can check old farmable static plexes - no idea if CCP fixed em tho. But at most you will get 200mil/day
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Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2008.06.12 09:36:00 -
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Originally by: Juana Morlaine
Pricing on A-Type and B-Type items look plain fine - drug bpc pricing also. You guys are simply jealous and greedy bastards. How about conquering the constellations where those spawn? You can not solve it ingame - you lack the balls and patience to do so - why dont you just leave?`
Yeah. What was wrong with 10/10 plexes respawning every hour? I mean: prices were balanced and people could solve problems ingame.
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Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2008.06.12 13:29:00 -
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Edited by: Deva Blackfire on 12/06/2008 13:30:51
Originally by: Juana Morlaine
Originally by: Deva Blackfire
Yeah. What was wrong with 10/10 plexes respawning every hour? I mean: prices were balanced and people could solve problems ingame.
They respawned every 12 hours before - they respawn instantly now. Go out, find them. Same here - if you lack ability and patience - how about whining somewhere else?
Uh? I think you missed about 1 month time when 10/10 plexes were respawning each HOUR not 12 hours. Also 10/10 plexes do respawn instantly - but not within 3-5 jumps from place they were.
Also FYI i did manage to nab those Digital plexes and if i wanted to i could EASILY join group that is farming them right now. You know why i wont do this? Because i dislike farming and unbalanced stuff. Other than that its as easy as moving my ship/s 10-15 jumps away. So STFU if you dont have a clue.
EDIT: also i agree with guy above. Its not even close to "exploration" when you can be sure same thing will spawn in same place everytime. Its just plain old farming.
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Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2008.06.12 14:26:00 -
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1. they spawn within same constellation = around 5 systems to check.
2. almost noone cares about sites which cant be farmed 24/7. tell me who will run around searching for 10/10 plexes scanning whole regions when he can sit in ONE constellation and get SURE plex which drops 9/10 loot yet having 5/10 difficulty. And the "noone knows which spawn and where"... wrong. After 100's (tho its getting closer to 1000's now) scans you can start to get info what spawns where. Its all about statistics.
3. It is easy unless you dont have brain and try to make it harder. And even if you hit "normal" radar site you can clear it within 5 minutes thus removing "false" signature. Also when you are blocking plex what else is there to do?
And having "sit there, repeat scan click" is not exploration. Otherwise you can call mining exploration because both need same amount of skill (after you have probe placement developed).
And saying that "everything is fine, im farming it allright" doesnt mean everything is fine. |

Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2008.06.12 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: Juana Morlaine
3. Said Cosmos plex has a "stupid" drop rate, which is more like: 30-40 % no drop, 20 - 50 % stupid crap drops and rest a decent drop. As a result the Cosmos nets something along the line of 40Mill - 500 Mill a run (depending on stuff and plex type). Only exception here are Gist drops, which are on high demand by players (where for Gist the revenue is much higher).
WTS: 8x Pith A-type Shield Boost Amplifier 4x Pith A-type X-Large Shield Booster 5x Pith A-type Large Shield Booster Pith A-type hardeners - you want them in packages? because i dont have time to sell each one separately.
2 weeks with 2-3 runs per day. Total around 6bil. Not bad for 15-20 runs. But as you say: they are bad and worthless and PERFECTLY balanced.
Btw: wtb another plex location, who needs dyspo moons nowadays. |

Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2008.06.12 18:45:00 -
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Originally by: Juana Morlaine
Originally by: Deva Blackfire
WTS: 8x Pith A-type Shield Boost Amplifier 4x Pith A-type X-Large Shield Booster 5x Pith A-type Large Shield Booster Pith A-type hardeners - you want them in packages? because i dont have time to sell each one separately.
2 weeks with 2-3 runs per day. Total around 6bil. Not bad for 15-20 runs. But as you say: they are bad and worthless and PERFECTLY balanced.
Btw: wtb another plex location, who needs dyspo moons nowadays.
Nothing on market by you. Maybe a mysterious alt you didnt mention? You Sir: either back it up - or just be shown to all who you are.
Why should i flood market (escrow) like all stupid newbs? There are other means of selling mods - directly to people who need em. You want some? Just convo ingame. If no - then buzz off and dont bother me.
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Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2008.06.12 18:57:00 -
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Edited by: Deva Blackfire on 12/06/2008 18:58:50 Edited by: Deva Blackfire on 12/06/2008 18:58:04
Originally by: Asiel Edited by: Asiel on 12/06/2008 18:54:41 Jealousy ?
Seems so. Pretty much: if he wants items he can convo and ill sell. If he doesnt want - i cba to put it for him on view so he can be "fulfilled forum warrior".
EDIT: oh yea - i should be ingame at around 22-24 eve time. Othet than that you can always mail.
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Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2008.06.12 20:48:00 -
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Originally by: Juana Morlaine
You gloat about it, acting as if - contrary to you I dont need that kind of attention whoring. No matter if you can or not. Anyways - thanks for the info that the Venal/Tenal site needs caring ;)
Venal has no farmable sites
Tenal is farmed by 1 russky atm i think - so easy to compete there (and lol @ razor - "those plexes dont give any isk", hi Kuso)
Vale is overcrowded
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Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2008.06.13 14:07:00 -
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Edited by: Deva Blackfire on 13/06/2008 14:09:19
Quote: 1. 0.0 Radar exploration is as profitable if not more in isk/hour than these Cosmos plexes 2. lowsec Unkown exploration is as profitable if not more in isk/hour than these Cosmos plexes 3. if you got familiar with 0.0 unknown exploration it will be by far more profitable for a duo of two players than these Cosmos plexes.
1. no, radars can barely get you 500mil isk IF you are VERY lucky. And then said radar plex will NOT give you enough components to build all 4-5 runs of ship interfaces. Plus dream on - interfaces are still rare enough and with similiar drop ratio to cosmos plex.
2. no, because lowsec unknowns dont respawn within same area constantly. They do move around whole lowsec so it is possible to clear entirely one region thus ya need to move to another region
3. no, because they take much more time. To run one expedition you need as much time as its needed to run 4-6 digital plexes. Even with "poor drop ratio" as you say (which is around 60% compared to around 30% for 10/10 DED) its much better than ANY expedition.
Numbers please if you think its otherwise.
EDIT: and the only troll here is you FYI. You never managed to state any facts just random speculations w/o any confirmation. |

Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2008.06.13 15:13:00 -
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Quote: - I highly doubt that drop rate in DED are different from the Cosmos. Simply since Overseer = Overseer. To the system it doesnt matter if it sits in a Cosmos or non-Cosmos plex. You know it - I know it.
Unfortunately it seems to be (based on runs i made on 8/10 DED, 6/10 DED and COSMOS runs) - all of those had different drop ratio, tho as number of tries is in tens not thousands its hard to judge whats the exact amount.
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Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2008.06.15 12:03:00 -
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Anyways: bug reporting is <-- this way
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Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2008.06.21 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: Phyrr
I own the exploration channel, I think I know wtf I am on about. I've run every kind of site you can run. These plexes will get nerfed, no dreams required.
You should watch who you make moderator there. Seeing idiot in action within first 10 seconds from entering is really pathetic.
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Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2008.06.22 02:06:00 -
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Use less words. Id be surprised if anyone bothers to read that all.
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Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2008.07.23 19:56:00 -
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Originally by: Baudolino Edited by: Baudolino on 22/07/2008 22:50:51 Pure alliance has one or two cosmos plexes in it`s space, but the constellation which 8-t system is a part of is camped by farmers.
Its not camped. Everyone can more in and out freely. Also not farmers. Opportunists.
Originally by: Baudolino
They are only a handfull of people but have 20+ characters in the constellation- including two NYX. All ships have cloaking devices.
Less than 20. Problems running multiple accounts, sorry. If i could i would :)
Originally by: Baudolino
they use 3-5 probers to find the plex and then put in an ishtar to complete it. They have multiple groups of characters with different roles (offensive/defensive/probing)
my role is forum jabbering
Originally by: Baudolino
While these guys are probably among the most organized and entrenched farmers in the game, it is in fact incredibly difficult to kick out small groups of farmers using cloak fitted ships and capitals to resupply and move loot.
Capitals cant resupply - viva jammers ! Also bitter much after losing 2x virtue set?
Originally by: Baudolino
As stated the potential profits are just too great for any of the farmers to leave. the farmers can afford to maintain the most expensive implants and most expensive fittings with no fear to their wallets..
You need clue not ISK.
Originally by: Baudolino
Farmers like this in 0.0 is THE major reason why i favour making it possible to probe cloaked ships..
Broken plexes like this is THE major reason why farming is fun. And CCP is too lazy to fix stuff.
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Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2008.09.06 17:40:00 -
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Originally by: advancedst Lol.. what do you expect? CCP to resolve this problem soon? They needed like years to "invent" warp to zero option. I don't expect this matter to be attend properly in the next several or even more months.
It was fixed this patch. Look how stupid you are.
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Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2008.09.07 02:45:00 -
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check under "exploit" fixes
If you want to know more there is either Sisi or TQ.
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Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2008.09.07 12:17:00 -
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seems to be once per day
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Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2008.09.08 12:23:00 -
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Originally by: Grozen so what stops large alliances from puting cynojammers in the farmed systems and gatecamps on all the exit gates so the farmers can't get out isn't that even better way of obtaining the loot?
also putting 50 man gatecamps on everygate etc... are you new to 0.0? You should know that runing gatecamps is easy. And farmers ARE 0.0 players - usually good one,not your average chins in ravens.
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Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2009.01.20 16:54:00 -
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Nerfed.
Tho Lolsus Mihi thinks its great conspiracy and we keep in secret that you can get 7-14bil/day thus they are cyno jamming whole constellation.
4 months too late lol. |

Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2009.01.20 21:07:00 -
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Originally by: Lokia Enroch Great another section of the game I am effectively Locked out from! I'm not a member of any alliance that controls that space, would be unable to ninja my way in for long periods of time, and would be unable to get in before downtime to upset someone else's timer on it.
No, you just dont want to commit or risk. I ran plexes in morsus/majesta/kia (and earlier tcf) space for 5+h per day and never got caught. And no i didnt have 1234124971 alliance mates to help me. My "plexing" team consists of me+ my alt (and sometimes friend + his covops alt).
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Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2009.01.20 21:34:00 -
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His nyx was used for 2 plexes or sth like that. Doable w/o nyx anyways (just takes 60 minutes instead of 3 ;p).
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